Sure thing. Happy to oblige you. Have Scotty beam you over my way...mats are ready. Failing that, c'mon by when you start travlin' all over on your job.
I'm not the least bit "straight," – am gay as gay can be. But I have no problem wrestling straight guys and would never try to do anything "gay" with them–never try to convert them – in the same we that we gays find so-called "conversion [from gay to straight] therapy" repulsive. Let's merely accept the fact that "straight" guys are wired differently and proceed from there.
A couple of my best matches have been with 100% straight guys. And I welcome them and anyone else to hit the mats with me.
I do find it strange, however, that straight guys are averse to wrestling in my back yard–despite it being shielded 100% from "neighborly" viewing. The chances of being photographed by an aircraft, Google Earth, or spy satellites are next to zero; and nobody there would care whether or not we'd only be a couple pixels on any image..
I'd wrestle you in your back yard. In fact I will if you like, next chance we get. That's going to be sometime in June.
As for being straight. I think I can claim to be among the straight. But as I age I've found that the line between being straight and being something more complex than that becomes blurred.
Wrestling, especially real matches where we are both trying to win, is erotic for me. I don't mind showing it and I like knowing that I can have the same effect on the other person.
You are welcome any time, Just Dan. You are one of the most genuine guys I have come across – a totally "no bullcrap" kind of man. As to any gay/straight dichotomy ....It has no sharp break; but a wide line accommodating many themes and variations.
Any of you guys get in my "neck of the woods," I'm more than willing to wrestle you – easy 'n' lite indoors with an option for more gusto outside. All of you on this thread so far seem quite safe, sane, 'n' rational. :) Already met Just Dan – a really great guy, one of the best, no nonsense guys, I ever wrestled. See my rec of him in my profile.
Thanks for the endorsement Spruce. As anyone who bothers to check out my report on you I feel the same about you. If any of you guys in the DC area want a good real match, look Spruce up.
Dan
Thank you, Dan, for your unsolicited endorsement, as action lately has been about as rare as air molecules outside the International Space Station. It's possible that folks see the age number and decide not to open the profile page itself–thus never seeing any recommendations. Hope you can make it over this way soon, especially once I get the yard set up for outdoor action..
As hard of a time I have finding anyone who will wrestle with me, (most likely due to age), I'll settle for straight, bi, gay, or asexual. Averaging over 100 hours looking for every hour wrestling, tolerant straights are most welcome.
For one thing, if a straight guy spends an hour here on the mats it's virtually guaranteed an hour's worth of wrestling rather than the extreme opposite from some guys where it's two minutes of pretend wrestling and 58 minutes of other. If I wanted only "other," there are sites where that can be found at a 10 hours to 1 hour ratio, not 100+.
In the past two months I've wrestled two straight guys – two among the best of my encounters.
Might as well as put in a plug, and say–check out my profile, especially if you are in the DC area.
doesn't matter to me if straight, gay, bi, or asexual, as far as this site is concerned – only reqs is male, safe 'n' sane, arrive clean, and other common sense protocols. I think I mentioned somewhere that when the guy is straight, I;'m more likely to get an hour's worth of wrestling in a given hour than otherwise :)
Sure thing. If you get to the DC area (I'm in Arlington, across the river from DC), let's do it. Let me know well ahead of time if you can. Cheers, Spruce
I am an older straight guy who loves to wrestle. I do it for the exercise and the sport. On occasion, I have gotten aroused when I wrestle but its frustrating because I never can predict when it will happen. Has this ever happened to any other straight guys?
Don't forget that we are mamals, and male mamals allways fight before sex. Sex and male fight or wrestling are very close in the wild life too, where males get aroused while fighting other males, to have sex with females later.
It happens to *some* straight dudes, absolutely, and some of them may even (actually) be bi. Nowhere near enough information to know yet whether just a "I got a boner during boxing" means "gay/bi" or "I once got a boner at the kitchen table; didn't mean I am a sitophliac. This doesn't mean anything yet on its own."
Like wristlock I find myself in a relatively small minority being (mostly) straight. I've also found that it matters very little. Everyone I've met and wrestled has been a gentleman off the mats regardless of their interests outside of wrestling.
I've also learned that, for me at least and I think for most of us who identify themselves as straight, the lines between one and other is blurry. Wrestling is inherently erotic and I am as capable of getting aroused by it as anyone else. While the interests in post wrestling activities might differ amongst us there is very little difference in our responses during the match. So what label do I put on myself? And does it really matter?
Being honest with yourself about what arouses you is crucial to your happiness and fulfillment. And sometimes that is a bit scary.
For most men, sex and violence are auto-erotically connected at some level. When an opponent gets sprung during a match, I never think it's because of my compelling sexiness. Lol. No. I'm pretty arrogant, but not that full of myself.
The mistake we make is interpreting a sexual response to violence as an indicator of how attractive we find our opponents.
A bigger problem for men in this situation is that they often look at prospective opponents on this site, and try to judge their sexual response to a match based on photos or chat when only an experiential measure really means anything to them.
You may "really" be bi, and this one thing (wrestling competitively with guys) is simply the only way in which you aren't straight - meaning, wrestling is the access code for your brain to find males desirable. Maybe it's wrestlers' usually awesome bodies, or maybe it's the grind and friction of the grappling itself (or maybe it's the gay-ass uniforms), but there is some "there" there that you find attractive but cannot access - so far - without wrestling as your keycard.
Remember, bisexual ONLY means that one can find either/both sexes attractive. It does not mean they have to date one of each for the rest of their lives, that they cannot be faithful to only one person, that they even want both genders equally in the first place, or that wanting *sex* with both genders means bi people want *relationships* with both. Nope - lots and lots of bi dudes are down with some penis for teh fun, but they can't bond with, date, fall in love with a guy; that kind of wiring appears to be reserved to women. (And no, bi haters, it's not just because of internalized homophobia; they're just not interested). Anyway, those signals can be helpful too.
Assuming you survive the fight you just started, now what? Rip the guy's clothes off and get laid? Well, whether or not you even want to / could depends on the bi/straight thing - is there a way, any way, your brain can process getting erotic with a dude, or is it a no-go for you and there just is no universe in which you'll ever sleep with anyone besides a woman?
* If the latter, you may be (probably are) straight. None of this wrestling erotism means you're secretly a flaming homo, nor does it mean you want to bone/be boned by your opponent. Sexual attraction comes in trillions and trillions of ways and rules and exceptions - it is possible that the ONLY way in which the entire list of "Things That Just Dan Finds Sexy" EVER contains dudes, the male form only ever turns your crank in any way at all, is when dude is ready to throw down and is facing you across a mat or a ring. You are aroused by the context, the idea of you and someone else locked in wrestling/combat/sportsmanship/domination (whatever it is for you), and not (at all!) by the penis the other guy is packing. There will not be post-match coitus because your equipment wouldn't respond and join in. lol
Humans make sex so complicated, when it's at heart a fairly simple - or at least elemental, if not simple - thing.
Wristlock, I don't live anywhere near you so I can't trade hold with you, but I can relate with you interest and hope you find a suitable partner/opponent to do it with.
I am one of the very few straight members on the site and I do understand that it is mostly a site for gay guys, however I do love to trade wrestling holds, but I am finding it very difficult to find someone that likes the same. There are many profiles that list among there interest practicing holds, which is exactly what I am looking for, and I have messaged quite a few members that list practicing holds, but when I say that is what I want to do it seems to fall on stony ground. If there are any guys on the site that would just like to exchange some light to medium painful holds with me, preferably in the Manchester area, then please get in touch. Wristlock
Hey wristlock. Sorry I'm not closer to you. I do enjoy trading holds and general wrestling. It would be awesome to try that with you, but the distance is that only obstacle I see for that never happening.
It's a shame I'm not over by you. I would love to trade holds with you. Despite everything, wrestling is erotic to me. I can wrestle a guy even if that's all we do since I do like it immensely. Lots of luck in finding guys to wrestle.
markuk (26)
5/24/2016 1:07 AMAlways up for a match in front of a woman. London based if anyone wants to try a bout with a st8 guy.
AustinZanepro (2)
5/21/2016 3:52 PMStraight all the way, check out
hellcatedy (47)
5/22/2016 3:40 AM(In reply to this)
I'd love to wrestle you sir.
JobberOtter (15 )
5/16/2016 3:03 AMI could use another wrestling match right about now
Spruceman (55 )
5/16/2016 3:07 AM(In reply to this)
Sure thing. Happy to oblige you. Have Scotty beam you over my way...mats are ready. Failing that, c'mon by when you start travlin' all over on your job.
JobberOtter (15 )
5/16/2016 3:09 AM(In reply to this)
I'll be sure to do so when I start traveling!
Spruceman (55 )
5/13/2016 4:45 PMI'm not the least bit "straight," – am gay as gay can be. But I have no problem wrestling straight guys and would never try to do anything "gay" with them–never try to convert them – in the same we that we gays find so-called "conversion [from gay to straight] therapy" repulsive. Let's merely accept the fact that "straight" guys are wired differently and proceed from there.
A couple of my best matches have been with 100% straight guys. And I welcome them and anyone else to hit the mats with me.
I do find it strange, however, that straight guys are averse to wrestling in my back yard–despite it being shielded 100% from "neighborly" viewing. The chances of being photographed by an aircraft, Google Earth, or spy satellites are next to zero; and nobody there would care whether or not we'd only be a couple pixels on any image..
Just Dan (7)
5/15/2016 2:10 PM(In reply to this)
Spruce,
I'd wrestle you in your back yard. In fact I will if you like, next chance we get. That's going to be sometime in June.
As for being straight. I think I can claim to be among the straight. But as I age I've found that the line between being straight and being something more complex than that becomes blurred.
Wrestling, especially real matches where we are both trying to win, is erotic for me. I don't mind showing it and I like knowing that I can have the same effect on the other person.
Spruceman (55 )
5/15/2016 4:15 PM(In reply to this)
You are welcome any time, Just Dan. You are one of the most genuine guys I have come across – a totally "no bullcrap" kind of man. As to any gay/straight dichotomy ....It has no sharp break; but a wide line accommodating many themes and variations.
Morrosko (32)
4/13/2016 6:16 AMDon't forget that we are mamals, and male mamals allways fight before sex. Sex and male fight or wrestling are very close in the wild live
reallyrassle (5)
4/13/2016 1:04 PM(In reply to this)
Interesting observation.
Gutstrike (4)
4/13/2016 11:27 PM(In reply to this)
I agree an interesting observation.
Spruceman (55 )
3/28/2016 8:36 PMAny of you guys get in my "neck of the woods," I'm more than willing to wrestle you – easy 'n' lite indoors with an option for more gusto outside. All of you on this thread so far seem quite safe, sane, 'n' rational. :) Already met Just Dan – a really great guy, one of the best, no nonsense guys, I ever wrestled. See my rec of him in my profile.
Just Dan (7)
3/30/2016 2:45 AM(In reply to this)
Thanks for the endorsement Spruce. As anyone who bothers to check out my report on you I feel the same about you. If any of you guys in the DC area want a good real match, look Spruce up.
Dan
Spruceman (55 )
3/30/2016 3:40 AM(In reply to this)
Thank you, Dan, for your unsolicited endorsement, as action lately has been about as rare as air molecules outside the International Space Station. It's possible that folks see the age number and decide not to open the profile page itself–thus never seeing any recommendations. Hope you can make it over this way soon, especially once I get the yard set up for outdoor action..
Spruceman (55 )
3/27/2016 10:05 PMAs hard of a time I have finding anyone who will wrestle with me, (most likely due to age), I'll settle for straight, bi, gay, or asexual. Averaging over 100 hours looking for every hour wrestling, tolerant straights are most welcome.
For one thing, if a straight guy spends an hour here on the mats it's virtually guaranteed an hour's worth of wrestling rather than the extreme opposite from some guys where it's two minutes of pretend wrestling and 58 minutes of other. If I wanted only "other," there are sites where that can be found at a 10 hours to 1 hour ratio, not 100+.
In the past two months I've wrestled two straight guys – two among the best of my encounters.
Might as well as put in a plug, and say–check out my profile, especially if you are in the DC area.
hellcatedy (47)
3/28/2016 7:14 PM(In reply to this)
I'd love to wrestle you man.
Newwrestling (8)
3/29/2016 3:10 AM(In reply to this)
Would you be interested in wrestling this straight guy too???
Spruceman (55 )
3/29/2016 3:20 AM(In reply to this)
doesn't matter to me if straight, gay, bi, or asexual, as far as this site is concerned – only reqs is male, safe 'n' sane, arrive clean, and other common sense protocols. I think I mentioned somewhere that when the guy is straight, I;'m more likely to get an hour's worth of wrestling in a given hour than otherwise :)
Spruceman (55 )
3/28/2016 8:19 PM(In reply to this)
Sure thing. If you get to the DC area (I'm in Arlington, across the river from DC), let's do it. Let me know well ahead of time if you can. Cheers, Spruce
dandunn (5)
2/06/2016 2:02 AMYes always
reallyrassle (5)
1/26/2016 12:09 PMI am an older straight guy who loves to wrestle. I do it for the exercise and the sport. On occasion, I have gotten aroused when I wrestle but its frustrating because I never can predict when it will happen. Has this ever happened to any other straight guys?
Morrosko (32)
4/14/2016 11:28 AM(In reply to this)
Don't forget that we are mamals, and male mamals allways fight before sex. Sex and male fight or wrestling are very close in the wild life too, where males get aroused while fighting other males, to have sex with females later.
hellcatedy (47)
5/13/2016 6:45 PM(In reply to this)
I'd love to wrestle you man.
Just Dan (7)
1/26/2016 8:32 PM(In reply to this)
I think it's very normal. I find it even more so now that I've reached the age where a young hot girlfriend is probably not in my future.
reallyrassle (5)
1/27/2016 12:28 AM(In reply to this)
I have a g/f and she makes me react that way too.
hellcatedy (47)
1/26/2016 6:13 PM(In reply to this)
Nothing wrong with that reallyrassle. I'm glad to see straight dudes admitting that it happens.
power559 (8 )
2/03/2016 1:22 AM(In reply to this)
It happens to *some* straight dudes, absolutely, and some of them may even (actually) be bi. Nowhere near enough information to know yet whether just a "I got a boner during boxing" means "gay/bi" or "I once got a boner at the kitchen table; didn't mean I am a sitophliac. This doesn't mean anything yet on its own."
reallyrassle (5)
1/27/2016 12:28 AM(In reply to this)
Thanks. Just trying to keep it real.
Wrestlersqueeze (2)
9/05/2014 10:47 PMSo much fun and that's how you learn
wristlock (13)
9/05/2014 9:37 PMTrading holds is my thing, I love both being in a hold, and putting them on
Just Dan (7)
1/23/2016 5:42 PM(In reply to this)
Like wristlock I find myself in a relatively small minority being (mostly) straight. I've also found that it matters very little. Everyone I've met and wrestled has been a gentleman off the mats regardless of their interests outside of wrestling.
I've also learned that, for me at least and I think for most of us who identify themselves as straight, the lines between one and other is blurry. Wrestling is inherently erotic and I am as capable of getting aroused by it as anyone else. While the interests in post wrestling activities might differ amongst us there is very little difference in our responses during the match. So what label do I put on myself? And does it really matter?
buzzcut (2)
2/11/2016 3:29 PM(In reply to this)
Being honest with yourself about what arouses you is crucial to your happiness and fulfillment. And sometimes that is a bit scary.
For most men, sex and violence are auto-erotically connected at some level. When an opponent gets sprung during a match, I never think it's because of my compelling sexiness. Lol. No. I'm pretty arrogant, but not that full of myself.
The mistake we make is interpreting a sexual response to violence as an indicator of how attractive we find our opponents.
A bigger problem for men in this situation is that they often look at prospective opponents on this site, and try to judge their sexual response to a match based on photos or chat when only an experiential measure really means anything to them.
hephaestion2014 (47)
3/28/2016 8:12 AM(In reply to this)
"The mistake we make is interpreting a sexual response to violence as an indicator of how attractive we find our opponents."
Well this has set me thinking.
Great post.
power559 (8 )
2/03/2016 1:17 AM(In reply to this)
Couple of ideas:
- You may "really" be bi, and this one thing (wrestling competitively with guys) is simply the only way in which you aren't straight - meaning, wrestling is the access code for your brain to find males desirable. Maybe it's wrestlers' usually awesome bodies, or maybe it's the grind and friction of the grappling itself (or maybe it's the gay-ass uniforms), but there is some "there" there that you find attractive but cannot access - so far - without wrestling as your keycard.
Remember, bisexual ONLY means that one can find either/both sexes attractive. It does not mean they have to date one of each for the rest of their lives, that they cannot be faithful to only one person, that they even want both genders equally in the first place, or that wanting *sex* with both genders means bi people want *relationships* with both. Nope - lots and lots of bi dudes are down with some penis for teh fun, but they can't bond with, date, fall in love with a guy; that kind of wiring appears to be reserved to women. (And no, bi haters, it's not just because of internalized homophobia; they're just not interested). Anyway, those signals can be helpful too.- Assuming you survive the fight you just started, now what? Rip the guy's clothes off and get laid? Well, whether or not you even want to / could depends on the bi/straight thing - is there a way, any way, your brain can process getting erotic with a dude, or is it a no-go for you and there just is no universe in which you'll ever sleep with anyone besides a woman?
* If the latter, you may be (probably are) straight. None of this wrestling erotism means you're secretly a flaming homo, nor does it mean you want to bone/be boned by your opponent. Sexual attraction comes in trillions and trillions of ways and rules and exceptions - it is possible that the ONLY way in which the entire list of "Things That Just Dan Finds Sexy" EVER contains dudes, the male form only ever turns your crank in any way at all, is when dude is ready to throw down and is facing you across a mat or a ring. You are aroused by the context, the idea of you and someone else locked in wrestling/combat/sportsmanship/domination (whatever it is for you), and not (at all!) by the penis the other guy is packing. There will not be post-match coitus because your equipment wouldn't respond and join in. lolHumans make sex so complicated, when it's at heart a fairly simple - or at least elemental, if not simple - thing.
Jimmy Elijah (76)
4/02/2016 1:31 AM(In reply to this)
Well said. And on that note, it's time to do some rasslin'!
quasiotter (7)
2/10/2016 5:45 PM(In reply to this)
Thank you for this; wonderfully communicated.
I'm gay, but orientation doesn't matter to me. Sex and wrestling are completely different mindsets that I don't like mixing.
hellcatedy (47)
1/23/2016 6:38 PM(In reply to this)
Hey Just Dan. I like that you are in the minority of straight dudes who like to wrestle and admit it's arousing. Hope to one day wrestle you.
Just Dan (7)
1/26/2016 8:34 PM(In reply to this)
Thanks Hellcat. I'd like that.
hellcatedy (47)
1/29/2016 5:54 PM(In reply to this)
Maybe one day for sure.
Chris55 (2 )
9/24/2014 12:35 AM(In reply to this)
Hope we can meet up later this year.
Wrestlersqueeze (2)
9/05/2014 2:13 PMAgreed. Like trading holds
JobberOtter (15 )
7/22/2014 9:30 PMYeah really
Just Dan (7)
7/03/2014 9:15 PMWristlock, I don't live anywhere near you so I can't trade hold with you, but I can relate with you interest and hope you find a suitable partner/opponent to do it with.
wristlock (13)
1/28/2014 12:33 AMI am one of the very few straight members on the site and I do understand that it is mostly a site for gay guys, however I do love to trade wrestling holds, but I am finding it very difficult to find someone that likes the same. There are many profiles that list among there interest practicing holds, which is exactly what I am looking for, and I have messaged quite a few members that list practicing holds, but when I say that is what I want to do it seems to fall on stony ground. If there are any guys on the site that would just like to exchange some light to medium painful holds with me, preferably in the Manchester area, then please get in touch. Wristlock
hellcatedy (47)
1/22/2016 10:16 PM(In reply to this)
Hey wristlock. Sorry I'm not closer to you. I do enjoy trading holds and general wrestling. It would be awesome to try that with you, but the distance is that only obstacle I see for that never happening.
hellcatedy (47)
9/19/2014 8:23 PM(In reply to this)
It's a shame I'm not over by you. I would love to trade holds with you. Despite everything, wrestling is erotic to me. I can wrestle a guy even if that's all we do since I do like it immensely. Lots of luck in finding guys to wrestle.